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John4hc Just Startin' 1 posts since
Jan 17, 2012
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Jun 7, 2012 12:28 AM

Tuning problems !

I've just upgraded my Tyler Variax firmware. Its now playing both the standard and alternate tunings at the same time from both the Ethernet out and the standard jack.  I can't solve this. Anyone know how to fix it? Its fine as long as I play in standard tuning as soon as I play an alternate one I get the standard one too. 

 

Playing through an HD500. Not a clue what is going wrong.

 

Please help !

 

John

  • silverhead Expert Line 6 User 9,592 posts since
    Apr 1, 2009
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    Jun 7, 2012 6:33 AM (in response to John4hc)
    Re: Tuning problems !

    Two things come to mind:

    - Check your settings. Make sure your Variax is set to Model mode and that are not using the Variax Mags as an input. You may be hearing both the modeled alternate tuning and the sound from the unaltered tuning through the mag pickups.

    - You may also simply be hearing the sound of the unaltered tuning produced by the acoustic vibration of the strings themselves. It actually requires a rather loud volume for this sound to be overpowered; your ear is very sensitive to this. Try using fully enclosed headphones to block out this sound as much as possible. To be sure, try recording a short piece - the string vibrations will not be captured in the recording and you won't hear them during playback.

  • Iknowathingortwo 1,667 posts since
    Jul 17, 2007
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    Jun 7, 2012 10:14 AM (in response to John4hc)
    Re: Tuning problems !

    Go to page 7 & 8 on your POD HD after holding down the HOME button to give you 10 pages to choose from.  7&8 deal with the Variax and it's tuning.

     

    Make sure you do not have the inputs selected so that the Mags are selected as either input 1 or input 2.  If so, then please change it to anything other than mags only.  SAME is the easiest setting, but it doubles your input signal which can cause too much gain if you like your sounds very clean.  I usually choose GUITAR for input 2 just in case I ever need to plug a standard guitar into the unit so I don't have to go and change things during a show.

     

    Please check this out and write back your results - thanks.

     

    Neal

  • Line6Hugo Line 6 6,580 posts since
    Apr 8, 2007
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    Jun 20, 2012 8:29 AM (in response to John4hc)
    Re: Tuning problems !

    +1 to the suggestions from Silverhead and MerlinFL.

     

    Hopefully their suggestions have resolved the issue you were experiencing as you have not replied back yet.  I will be marking this thread as assumed answered.

     

    For future technical support problems or inquiries, please use the following link to contact support directly with your inquiry:

     

    http://line6.com/support/tickets/

     

    Regards,

     

    Line6Hugo

    • Rewolf48 Just Startin' 133 posts since
      Aug 9, 2010
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      Jun 22, 2012 5:00 AM (in response to Line6Hugo)
      Re: Tuning problems !

      I had exactly this happening too, JTV-69 and HD-500 and I wanted a capo at the third fret so I set the Patch to alter the JTV tuning to +3 on all strings.  When I first did this it worked fine, and then a week later and with no idea what happened I was getting both standard and capo tunings at the same time.  It was not HD input settings and it was not hearing the strings, you got both tunings whether using VDI or 1/4 cable so it was the JTV that was corrupted, but what caused it? Don't know.

       

      With an audition in 3 days time that required the third fret capo my recovery method was to reflash both JTV and HD500 and then recreate the relatively simple patches involved.

       

      I wouldn't call this a fix because it isn't - something in the combined systems caused the JTV to output both sounds and I have no idea what, so it could happen again at any time.

       

      I only connected the computer for long enough to apply the firmware and then did everything else locally on the HD and since then I have been very strict about disconnecting the two before powering off and only plugging the JTV back in after the HD-500 is completely booted and so far it hasn't happened again.  But that might just be luck.

       

      The impact of this is catastrophic in terms of sounds and the process for recovering from it is rather long winded - if it happens again I will do my best to work out what might have triggered it, but I now carry a capo just in case it happens at rehearsal or before a gig.  If it happens in the middle of a gig it will be rather embarrasing...

       

      I just wonder if it is related to the fault as yet not fixed where coming out of the HD tuner causes the JTV tuning to reset to standard?

    • rgshaw Just Startin' 3 posts since
      Jun 23, 2012
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      Jun 23, 2012 5:26 AM (in response to Line6Hugo)
      Re: Tuning problems !

      I also have this problem with my JTV-59.  Well at least I dd, I tried an upgrade of the firmware from 1.71 to 1.82 - but it failed and now the guitar is dead.  It doesn't show up in Monkey and will only work in passive mode.

       

      Now what?

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